Kevin McQuoid © 2021
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What happens during the 1000yrs some call the Millennium?
There are many teachings from many people on this subject, and all leave questions unanswered, and confusion, and many errors in their doctrine.
Let’s not forget that none will have the full understandings on the subject of the last days, the crucial timing and understandings fall just short of exact knowledge.
Considering the closed words and sealed books, we are still allowed a certain understanding of these matters; now let us see what God will bless me with, in the skill of understanding the knowledge of his word,
The book of Daniel informs us that some books are sealed, but that is just for a time, Dan 12:4 “And thou, Daniel, close the words, and seal the book to the time of the end; until many are taught, and knowledge is increased”. --- Now I would like to draw your attention to the book of Revelations or the Apocalypse, and know that this book was written long after Daniels Prophecies; and note that in those Chapters of Revelations 19 to 22 give a clearer picture or account of the order in which many things will occur, but still only to a point, but look Rev 22:10 “And he says to me, “seal not the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is near”. And now then we see God allowing the Knowledge to increase in Revelations; he through Jesus Christ is teaching all who he chooses, and that will receive, to have understanding of the prophecy.
And then Daniel 12:9 ---“For the words are closed and sealed up to the time of the end.” --- And the reason for us not being allowed all the knowledge is in v10 “Many must be tested, and thoroughly whitened, and tried with fire, and sanctified;”---- This is the reason for God filtering through the ages, the exact knowledge of his word, we are not to know all things yet because of the testing of our Faith, and of our worthiness to be able to receive the exact knowledge, The truth is that God will give those who he chooses the knowledge when he sees they are ready for the responsibilities of it, knowledge is responsibility. The unfortunate problem here is that many of those who are deceived by the Devil, are those who claim to have been given knowledge and understandings from God! And that is the Great Deceiver at work; it is what he does best! However that is another topic I have covered on this site, but not in this book. --- And we see in Dan 8:26 Daniel is again told to seal the vision, thus indicating that God intends to filter the knowledge in at the right times to those he chooses and at the right time.
When the dispersion is ended
Note KJV falls very short in scripture compared to the Septuagint Daniel 12:4-13, (Septuagint) and in there we are told in verse 7 ---“When the dispersion is ended they shall know all these things”. - When is the dispersion ended? - Isaiah 11: Is telling of Jesus coming to rule, to Judge and to smite, and while that is happening, v6 gives an account of people of the flesh, and of Animals behaviour, that this is a time of rule over the Gentiles (Gentile is any one who is not a Jew) And for the remnant of the Jews and people Israel, v12 “He shall gather the lost ones of Israel, and
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He shall gather the dispersed of Juda from the four corners of the Earth.” The lost and the dispersed!
Now then what time is this set in; look at v 13 tells us that at that time “And the envy of Ephraim shall be taken away, and the enemies of Juda shall perish”. – Well that hasn’t happened yet.
Now look at Isaiah 56:1-8, read it and get the context of it; then go to v 7 and know that this is the Millennium time God is referring to and see v8 “Saith the lord that gathers the dispersed of Israel; for I will gather to him a congregation.” (Him Jesus). These being the dispersed. And this points again to the dispersion not being finished until after the return of Christ.
When is this dispersion to end that indicates when we will know all of the sealed knowledge?
The dispersion ends when all have been gathered back to Jerusalem, and has that happened yet? ---No not according to Scripture. ---If we go back to Isaiah 11: 10 tells us Jesus is Ruling over the people and this has to be during the 1000yr period, --- well then it is during that time as v11 says “And it shall be in that day, that the Lord shall shew his hand, to be zealous for the remnant that is left of the people” ---- And he goes on to show who he is talking about in v 12 Which are the people Israel and the Jews.
It is clear that in context, the meaning of the end of the dispersion comes as the scriptures show in Isaiah CH 11: ----No, it is not yet time for the sealed words, and sealed books to be completely unsealed. --- But more has been revealed.
Have you noticed that during this study the fact that the Millennium is a period of time that the Earth is occupied, not only by the immortal Saints, but by flesh people and animals, being ruled by Jesus Christ and the Saints?
This alone puts to the test the doctrine that; during the 1000yrs the earth is occupied as the abyss, the pit, by the Devil, and that no flesh man is on the Earth. And then that doctrine goes on to say that the earth will then be filled with the resurrected wicked dead, reinstated into their former stature, let loose to fill the four corners of the Earth, then the Devil will be let loose on them once more, and bring them to war against Jerusalem and the Saints, and God will destroy them all. ---- Sorry I don’t see this in the scriptures, there are too many loop holes and unanswed questions let alone contradictions and confusions!
Perhaps, because of this sort of doctrine, we should seek more understanding from God, and go on in this study.
There is a vast amount of information on this subject of the 1000yr period, and the understandings of it go into large volume books if I wrote it all, but this is the great thing about letting God teach you, once he has opened your eyes up to the truth of the scriptures then the whole Bible seems to be full of that particular subject enquired of from God. And so much you never saw before is suddenly there.
I would like to point out at this stage, the realisation soon comes that while understanding is being given on this subject, very little information is given of the time after Jesus and the Saints hands back
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The ruler-ship of the earth to God, and know, that at that time, all that were flesh that have been saved, they are in their immortal state. 1Cor 15:24-28 and 35-56.
INHERIT THE LAND A SECOND TIME
The people Israel lost the inheritance of the land through transgressions to God and God scattered them through out the world.
Now we see in Isaiah 61: 7 “Thus they inherit the land a second time, and everlasting joy will be on their head.” --- Now look at v4 “And they shall build the old waste places, they shall raise up those that before were made desolate, and shall renew the Desert cities, even those that had been be desolate for many generations.” --- Well this is all been happening for some decades now, to day there is much work done by the ten thousands of acres, and water dams and buildings built, and trees planted to reclaim the desert places, the work has stretched far and wide, I am responsible for having helped the planting myself (Financially that is). So there’s prophecy at work to be seen.
Some further understanding
The understanding of; “Ever lasting”, or “Forever”, do not mean eternity, they are for a period of time, an Era of time or, a World in time.
For example; the material land inheritance for the people Israel is forever, but look they already lost it! Now they are to get it back everlasting. But that everlasting is only during the era of the millennium, it will go on without stopping without interruption, no one will war it off them during that time, it is for-ever that time. --- Then when the New Heavens and the New Earth and the New City Jerusalem happens, and there is no more Sea and no need for the Sun or the Moon, and every thing is changed and made new by God, because everything on this Earth will have been wiped out as in 2 Peter. “And the former things forgotten”.
All the earth will be finished, not being as it is now, God will be in all, and all will be in God, that’s immortals, the Millennium period is over, the New has come in, there now is no more death! No more Death, this is the period after the millennium, no more flesh man, no more born, no more to die; the child will have time to grow and choose good or evil by their own free will,during the millennium, then, God has finished with the flesh plan, and now has those who were found to be worthy as immortals with him,when once again he makes all things new, and the Spiritual city Jerusalem comes down from Heaven, from God; this will be for ever and ever (Eternity) and those who were found unworthy as immortals in torment being apart from God and knowing what they have missed out on! Luke 16:20-31. And the saved worthy will be in the same body state as Jesus is now. Phil 3:21. Rev 3:21. ----- Back to ever and forever and ever.--
Whereas “Forever and ever” is Eternity. --- Now then, if you do a study using the “Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance” Looking at those verses on the subject of “Ever” and then look in the column with the number of the Hebrew word that the translation has come out of, you will note that there are multiple roots to each “Ever”, then you will discover the true meaning and translation in context of these words “Ever” and “Forever and ever”, and will start to see as you read the scriptures, the true meanings, and that some things are not to be for Eternity, and your understanding will come up another level.---- You will then realise how much in error some have their doctrine.
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SOME LATTER DAY AND LAST DAYS EVENTS
Jesus Christ is to return.
The resting Saints are risen.
The Saints that are still alive will be taken up and changed into immortals.
Jesus Christ rules the world and the Saints co-rule with him.
The false prophet and the Beast are caught and put in the Eternal Torment.
The Devil is caught and chained up until the end of the Millennium.
Wicked people are destroyed and taken out from the people. Zac 14:
Governments and powers are told how to govern Christ’s way, or are taken out.
The people are given a better way to live.
This is the tapering off of reproduction on Earth.
This 1000yr period is the last days of flesh people.
The Devil is to be released at the end of the 1000yrs to bring the people who still have the evil in them to the war against Jerusalem and the Saints, and the wicked and the Devil will be destroyed, that is, cast into the Lake of Fire, which is the Eternal Torment.
The world as we know it is destroyed at that time as in 2 Peter, and God then brings in everything new, New heavens, and New Earth, New City Jerusalem, and what’s more every one that was ever found worthy is now new also, they are all immortals. Like God said “Behold! I make everything new”. What are all the fine details on how this is all going to happen at the end of Days? It is not given to us in scripture we don’t get all knowledge; we have trouble handling what we are given as it is.
Jesus Christ hands back to God ruler ship, Jesus has done his job, it was his forever, and now God who is the Father of all takes over because God is in all and all are in God, Immortal beings in spirit body. 1Cor 15:24-28 and 35-56.
MORE PROOF IN SCRIPTURE
Matt 22:30. “For in the Resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the Angels of God in Heaven.” ----“As Angels or messengers” as worded in the original MS.
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2 Peter. 3:3. “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts.”
The last days? Which are the actual last days? If we are in the latter days now waiting for Jesus to return, then when he does return, the 1000 yr period would be the last days, given that after the second resurrection is the final, and all will be resurrected and those worthy be as Immortals, and there are no more Mortals.
Look what 2 Peter 3: goes on to say.
In v5 peter says that the Heaven and the earth being talked of now, is that which is as described in Genesis as being that part of the earth “Standing out of the water and in the water.” And also the atmosphere above this is the heaven of earth.
V7. Backs this “But the Heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men” –these then are the heaven and earth that are to be burnt up, to pass away to be dissolved, and look, this is the place all those who are to be punished are kept !But fear not if you are one of God’s people, as you won’t be punished with the wicked. But! We all have to live together for now.
V10 “--- The Heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with a fervent heat, the earth also and the works, that are therein shall be burned up.”
Same again in v11.
We have to take it that at this particular stage there will be nothing left as it is now, and no mortals. ------ This has to be the end of days for Mortals – But not immortals! The last days start at the advent of the return of Christ, and are actually the millennium period, being that the 1000yr period are the last days of flesh people. ---Let’s look further.
2 Peter 3:13. “Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for a new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” Scripture has it that this can only happen in immortality.
According to his promise? The promise of the inheritance, that something better to all those who did and do not inherit the land allotment, Hebrews 11:39-40 and that is the inheritance of Jesus Christ, that which the “Seed” inherits, which is what Jesus says he will share, and through him ultimately we inherit God. 2 Peter 3:3 tells about the New Heavens and Earth which God has before him which comes after all flesh have been dealt with and all are of God in immortality, and we see this is so in. Matt 22:30. “For in the Resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the Angels of God in Heaven.” And also, 2 Peter 3:12 “Looking for and hastening unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved and the elements shall melt with fervent heat.” And v10 --- “The heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with a fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up”.
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It leaves little doubt that by the time we get to v13 that the New Heavens and Earth are for the immortal beings that are left, and what form do these come in? 1Cor 15:44. “It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body”. We get a spiritual body given to each and everyone of us. And look at Rev 21:1-7, it’s all new and all different.
THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS MAKES THIS CLEAR
We have an era of time, or a world, an age to go through called the 1000yrs where Christ and the Saints inherit ruler ship of the Nations, Christ and the Saints are immortal and the people are still flesh that are ruled over, we know this from the book of Revelations or the Apocalypse. In Rev 20:4 and 6, and we see in v7-8 that this is a 1000yr world at that time, with the flesh people still inhabiting the earth, with the Devil being let out again after the 1000yrs to bring flesh once more into the final war, and then v 10-15 showing the second death being the judgment to come the final judgment, followed by Ch21.
REVELATIONS ALLOWS THE IMPORTANT UNDERSTANDING
And now read Ch 21 at least through to v4 and see that all these now are immortals. “And he will wipe every tear away from their eyes; and death will be no more, nor mourning, nor crying; neither there any more pain; because the former things passed away”. (Diaglott Greek MS.) This describes the immortal state of Man. And death will be no more! This is the first time in all the prophecies we are told that Death will be no more, and that is because it is a happening NOT during the millennium times, but only as time progresses to the New Heavens and Earth and the New City Jerusalem time; this occurs after the millennium time, the 1000yr time is still of flesh, and the New Heaven and Earth time is for the immortals.
It has been made clear Rev 21:1 “And I saw a new heaven and a new Earth; for the former Heaven and the former Earth were gone, and the sea is no more”. There it is plain as, and if you are of the school of thought that in context the use of the word “Sea” here is used in reference to People, then there are no flesh people, but however you don’t go along with that, read on the rest of the verses and see for yourself, because v4 has the key, “And death will be no more” that’s the key, because if you can’t die, what are you other than immortal! The former things have all passed away!
V5 ----“Behold! I make all things new” And all this is written in the Scriptures as coming after the Millennium period, which is after the second death, the last and final judgment!
And look at the spiritual City in v2 “And the Holy City, a New Jerusalem, I saw coming down out of Heaven, from God, prepared as a Bride adorned for her Husband.” Know that this is not a City built by mans hands! Then look to the Scripture of Paul as see that Gods people are the spiritual building blocks of the temple of God, and Rev 3:12 Jesus tells some that he will make those who overcome, a pillar of the temple of God, so what is the understanding of Rev 3:12 and the new City coming out of Heaven from God you have now? And how deeply spiritual is it?
It is clear that there is a 1000yr period, and at that time, Jesus Christ rules with the Saints co ruling that time.
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THERE IS DISOBEDIENCE THAT IS DEALT WITH MILLENIUM TIMES
The prophecies of Zacharias are of the millennium times, and he tells of discipline of the rule with an “Iron rod” of Jesus Christ, Let’s look at Zec 14:12 “And this shall be the over throw with which the Lord will smite all the nations, as many as has fought against Jerusalem; their flesh shall consume away while they are standing on their feet, and their eyes shall melt out of their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.” --- Now, just remember that this is called ---- the overthrow! Now go to verse16 “And it will come to pass that whosoever shall be left of all the Nations that came against Jerusalem, shall even come up every year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, and to keep the feast of Tabernacles”. V17 “And it shall come to pass that whosoever of the families of the earth shall not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, even these shall be added to the others.”--- Now look at what this is saying, and know that; being added to the others means they will have their flesh consume away etc, these people are dealt with in such away as part of the big sort out during the Millennium period. Read on a bit further to see this backed up. --- Go to verse 18 “And if the family of Egypt shall not go up, nor come; then upon them shall be “The overthrow” with which the Lord shall smite the Nations,”----- Now that has backed up what will be happening to these ones during the 1000yr period, and certainly shows that it is not during the All things New Eternity, where there is no more death.
We see also that in Isa 61:7 “Thus shall they inherit the land a second time, and ever lasting joy shall be upon their head”. (This is from the Septuagint Greek MS.) And this tells us that the remnant, which is the saved of Israel, will re-inherit the actual Land inheritance that they once had, but lost again due to their transgressions. And this is during that 1000yr period, remember it is for an everlasting period, which is for a certain period of time or era, not for ever and ever which is eternity.
The understanding of Isa 65:17. If not understood will cause confusion; the verses leading up to v17 are about the 1000yr period (Millennium). And if you read carefully you will see that v17 is giving a foresight of what those who are God’s obedient people can expect after the Millennium, and is making the point that those who don’t listen to God will remember all those things listed from v11-17, but those who are God’s people who listen to God when the New Heavens and the New Earth comes to be, then these people will not remember and Edit, Not End edit. be tormented with those things of v11-17. Remember the New City of Jerusalem comes out of the Heaven from God, and that is spiritual for the Immortals.
Now then in v18 the subject has turned back to the 1000yr Millennium period, God telling us that he will for the 1000yr period make Jerusalem a rejoicing and all those things in the following verses, the Wolf and the Lamb feed together, the lion eating chaff, but look in v20 this is a key to what period of time this is all about, because people are still to die, this is still in the Millennium period. --- (I have to say here, you won’t get as good a read from the KJV and many other versions of the Bible as you will from the Septuagint Greek to English MS. Or the Diaglott word for word translation of Greek MS. The others have altered too much from the originals.)
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And to back that up as being during the 1000yr times look at v 20 and the Septuagint, “ --- The sinner who dies at a hundred years old shall also be accursed” Showing that the people are not immortals, therefore it is before that New Heavens and New Earth times .
I think by now we have enough understanding, to accept that there is a 1000yr period, where Christ and the Saints rule over the flesh people that remain after Christ’s sort out on his return. And that the Time to come after that Is that of the New Heavens and the New Earth, and the new Jerusalem, which is Spiritual with no Temple in it because God and Jesus are the Temple of it and the light from them makes obsolete the Sun, Stars and Moon, and where unlike the Millennium period where there is still death, then there is no death for the New Heaven, and Earth, and Jerusalem which is for ever and ever, for Eternity with God in all, and all in God, in Immortality.
A BREIF LOOK AT SOME ONE ELSES DOCTRINE TO COMPARE.
There is a doctrine that is taught by one who claims to be illuminated by the Holy Spirit, and published her book in 1886, this is what she says.
That the return of Christ brings immediately the complete and utter destruction of the Earth as it is now, that Jesus comes and takes up his Saints who are still living, leaving the earth a complete destruction, the Saints, she teaches, go to Heaven with Jesus the Christ, and are kept there while the Devil is left powerless on the ruined earth to ponder his evil doings, and in torment.
Then she teaches that during the time Jesus and the Saints are off the Earth and in heaven, that they then Judge the people of the earth, the wicked are written into a book and all of them are to be destroyed, that being the second death, then she says, after the 1000yrs are finished Jesus and the Saints return to earth to destroy the Devil and all the people written into the book. BUT HERE’S A DIFFICULT ONE, First these wicked are to be resurrected to their former stature, to life and set free in the world, then the Devil is going to be set free again, and he is going to gather up all these wicked ones who have just been set free and who are at the four corners of the Earth, these are to be gathered and bought as a great army against the city Jerusalem, surrounding the Saints, then God will destroy all the wicked at that time.
Now I have trouble with this; first, what logic is there in resurrecting the dead into the same stature as they died just to set them free to once again inhabit the world, to once again have the Devil deceive them in order to destroy them, this seems like an unnecessary game of Cat and Mouse. For a start 1Cor 15 tells us we are raised a spirit body immortal, scripture says the punishment of the wicked is eternal torment, the Lake of fire as in Rev 20:10, they have been cast into the lake of fire “---And they will be tormented Day and Night for ever and ever.” so therefore they to have to be immortal. And Rev tells us that the Devil brings these people in from the four corners of the earth, Rev 20:9. They must have been out free, and spent much time settling back to usual life if that were the case.
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The doctrine she teaches has it that the Earth and all on it was as in 2 Peter, completely wiped out, nothing left at all, all melted and no one and nothing left at all. ---And this is done by Jesus at his arrival on his return. --- Now that raises the question, if these wicked people are put back on the earth in their former stature, how did they live, and where did they get their weapons for War from, how did they travel from all the four corners of the earth to get to Jerusalem, and how did Jerusalem get back there, it’s certainly not the New City Jerusalem that is attacked, we know that because scripture tells us that the new City only comes after all the wars, and after the New Heaven and Earth, all the other events of wickedness are over, the last judgment is done and over, there is no more death.
And now therefore, knowing all that, we can see that if one wondered if this attack by these resurrected wicked was a Spiritual event, then by reading the scriptures will prove that it is not so.
But this is not what Rev 20:7-9 tells us. V7. It was after the millennium period the Devil was let loose. And v8. The Devil gathered Gog and Magog and assembled them together from the four corners of the Earth, for the war.
Yes you will find I repeat myself in what I write, but it is in the interests of learning understandings, if anyone is not given understandings from God directly, then know that those who are given them must share with those who will receive, thus understandings can be learned.
Another problem that looms with her doctrine is that; she has the whole world a complete and utter ruin bringing 2 Peters account back chronologically, and gives her own lengthy description of the state of it, this she states happens at Christ’s return, so there is nothing left, no City Jerusalem and what of these people that are all over the world, there is nothing on Earth any more by her account, how did they live and travel and where did their weapons of war come from? But then according to 1Cor:15 these people would have been immortal spirit, and not as people resurrected into their former stature. And does the scripture tell us that the people of the Army, which are gathered by the Devils influence to take the city Jerusalem, are immortal? I can’t find such to show you. Because according to Rev 20:11- 15 it clearly tells us that the judgment was held after the Devil was set free again, and after the army tried to take Jerusalem, the last judgment and therefore immortality of all comes after the final war.
Now therefore, scripture tells us that the world cannot have been left desolate of all flesh kind and his doings until after the 1000yr period. ( Isaiah needs to be read with understanding to know this also.)
V12 clearly tells us that the Dead were judged from those books where all we do as we live are written as we go through life. And V13 clearly shows that at that time the dead are still being given up from the Sea and the Graves.
Another thing that doesn’t fit in without the 1000yr period being that of a flesh world time is; Ezekiel’s prophecies, and his Temple, his prophecy has to be for the 1000yr time, and tells of people in the flesh and people who die and the sacrifice reinstated. Remember, there is no
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Temple in the New City Jerusalem, not Ezekiel’s Temple which is clearly defined as Material and physically used as such, and it is not in existence now.
Zacharias also needs the 1000yr period for his prophecies, as they are before the New Heavens and Earth.
Neither is there any room for Isaiah’s prophecies in concern of the latter and last days. There has to be a Millennium period for Isaiah, because he tells us the people Israel inherit the land a second time! And this is the land divided up as per Ezekiel, and it’s only forever, not for ever and ever, only for the 1000yrs in other words. Isa 61:7 tells us that. And that also has to happen before the second death or last resurrection, because it talks of people dying during that time, and that shows in Isa 65:20 but look at the differing accounts, the Septuagint says “The sinner who dies at 100 years old shall be accursed” while the KJV and others say “The child shall die an hundred years old”, not a good look is it, who’s doing these changes? (Septuagint is the Greek manuscript. Therefore considered as an original Manuscript.)
However look at what is written here; a Child dies at a 100yrs old or a sinner dies at a 100yrs old, there are no sinners and no death at the time of the New Heavens and New Earth, so these Prophecies have to be during the 1000yr period, because they certainly are not prophesied to happen before or after the 1000yrs.
2 Peter 3:“The elements shall melt with a fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up”. This can’t happen until after the 1000yrs until after all other things have happened of the flesh times, just look at scripture, it tells us anything before the New Heavens and Earth are flesh times, then it also tells us all that changes, and the war that the Devil was released to gather all the flesh people from the four corners of the earth, brings on the final and last of the flesh days, bringing. 2 Peter 3:
When do the New Heaven and the New Earth and the New City Jerusalem come? It comes at the end of the flesh man times, the end of days. Rev 20:11-15 and 21:1-2
Jesus Christ reigns with the Saints during the Millennium then hands all back to God!
Let me quote this from the Diaglott word for word translation of the Greek manuscript (original), even so the KJV agrees. And note that in context we are reading of the 1000yr period ending in the last days of Flesh before immortality for all. 1 Cor 15:24-25. “Then the end, when he shall give up the Kingdom to the God and Father; when he shall have abrogated all Government and all authority and Power.” --- Note “Then the end” That’s the end of the era, the world of the 1000yrs. Jesus hands back to God the kingdom that he and the Saints have ruled, doing all that has to be done to rule the people who have been left, and giving them time to come to be worthy one way or the other, then the end comes, as per the scriptures.-- Now “Abrogated all Government” this is to remove and or take out parts, and once done Jesus will have Governments working as per his rules that he has received from God, in other words either do it Gods way or no way at all, if not they are out. And v25. “For he must reign till he has placed all things under his feet.” --- Now notice that Jesus is to Reign, not judge, he has come to reign over those people who are left from the destruction of the wicked at his return, he has not
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Come to take up the Saints and then destroy all people who remain, He destroys only the wicked over a period of time, he has not come to destroy all but the Saints then head back to Heaven to Judge the dead, he is coming to Reign over those who remain and see their long lived days out in the last of this flesh world, as Isaiah tells us, thus giving mankind the time to taper off and come to a merciful end, reproduction of flesh will cease.
And verse 26. “Even death, the last Enemy, will be rendered powerless:” --- Yes, now then the New Heaven and New Earth and New City Jerusalem will come to be, because as God said, for during the time of the Millennium that these things remain before him, not in actual existence then, but now the 1000yr period is over and the final judgment is done and carried out, “Behold I make all things new” And he can bring them into being.
It leaves little doubt that by the time we get to Rev 20:13 that the new Heavens and Earth are for the immortal beings that are left, and what form do these come in? 1Cor 15:44. “It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body”. We get a spiritual body given to each and everyone of us. And look at Rev 21:1-7, it’s all new and all different. And look at Heb 12:22-23 “But ye are come unto mount sion and unto the city of the living God, the Heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of Angels, v23 “To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in Heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect.” --- There’s the back up spiritual explanation of the New City which comes down out of Heaven from God, for the spirits of just men made perfect.” (Immortal Gods people).
We have an era of time, or a world, an age to go through called the 1000yrs where Christ and the Saints inherit ruler ship of the Nations, Christ and the Saints are immortal and the people are still flesh that are ruled over, we know this from Isaiah, from Ezekiel, from Daniel, and Zechariah and from the book of Revelations or the Apocalypse. In Rev 20:4 and 6, and we see in v7-8 that this is a 1000yr world at that time, with the flesh people still inhabiting the earth, with the Devil being let out again after the 1000yrs to bring flesh once more into the final war, and then v 10-15 showing the second death being the judgment to come the final judgment, followed by Ch21 and read at least through to v4 and see that all these now are immortals. “And he will wipe every tear away from their eyes; and death will be no more, nor mourning, nor crying; neither there any more pain; because the former things passed away”. (Diaglott Greek MS.) This describes the immortal state of Man. (Death will be no more). (The former things passed away).
“Death will be no more” this is post millennium. But Isaiah Ch 65:18-25, with the exception of v17, and then 66:1-24 with the exception of v22 (These verses used as example of what is to come). Then the rest of those Chapters have to have a period of time, it’s not after the 1000yrs and it’s not before the 1000yrs, the only time it fits into is the 1000yr period.
Look at what is happening, people still die but live very much longer though there is a life span, Wolves and Lambs feed together, the Lion eats Chaff, it all adds up to something much different than today’s times, and something major has to happen for this to eventuate, as in the return of Christ, so the millennium period fits.
God’s mercy to the last born, the tapering off reproduction of mankind, (The Millennium)
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Would you think; that after all God has shown us, and told us of his love for what he has created, and that he tells us that he would like to save all mankind if that were possible, 2 Peter 3:9. - 1 Tim 2:4 and 1 Tim 2:3-6 Then do you think that God would send Jesus to destroy the whole of mankind in one foul swoop on his return? Do you realise what this would mean? Look at it, there will be people who are coming along just nicely, and getting their refinement from God, being bought by God through the trials and testing, people who are willing in their spirit to become obedient to God, waiting for God to teach them as he will do so, trusting God to deliver as he promised, waiting because God will only teach the next lesson as we are ready for it, so some lessons are slow to be learnt. But none the less these people are going to be God’s people, just look at the promises God and Jesus make on this subject, all those who come to God in obedience through Jesus Christ, do you think God will refuse them? As it is there will be people destroyed that are loved ones and friends of those who are saved, and God has to wipe the tears from the eyes of the saved, as they see these loved ones judged, God gives the saved immortal spiritual being, and they are bought to forget the former things, it’s part of the transformation to the spiritual being, but this is not to say that God will have to do these things to cover up for any sudden cutting off of Good people.
As long as people are being born there will be no end to the world as it is now; the new Heaven and all things new, cannot happen according to the promises God and Jesus make, which bring people to them. So what do you think might be a logical solution to this problem? Have a look to the Millennium period with some understanding and realise the answer.
There is much happening during the 1000yr period, some will go through a tribulation time others are going to live a flesh life much improved on this one; it is the period of tapering off rather than cutting bluntly short, allowing all those mercy, who would have if given the time, come to God through Jesus Christ. God is showing his mercy, and by not cutting off those who still need to be refined to become worthy of his Kingdom. The cutting off is at the end of the 1000yrs! God tells us to trust in him that if we come to him in obedience to him, and meek, that is easily lead by the Holy Spirit of God! And through the Lord Jesus Christ, then he will perform his promises to bring us to be worthy of his Kingdom.
And look at the spiritual City, “And the Holy City, a New Jerusalem, I saw coming down out of Heaven, from God, prepared as a Bride adorned for her Husband.” Know that this is not a City built by mans hands!
It is clear that there is a 1000yr period, and at that time, Jesus Christ rules with the Saints co ruling that time.
We see also that in Isa 61:7 “Thus shall they inherit the land a second time, and ever lasting joy shall be upon their head”. (This is from the Septuagint Greek MS.) And this tells us that the remnant, which is the saved of Israel, will re-inherit the actual Land inheritance that they once had, but lost again due to their transgressions. And this is during that 1000yr period, remember it is for an everlasting period, which is for a certain period of time or era, not for ever and ever which is eternity.
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The understanding of Isa 65:17. If not understood will cause confusion; the verses leading up to v17 are about the 1000yr period (Millennium). And if you read carefully you will see that v17 is giving a foresight of what those who are God’s obedient people can expect after the Millennium, and is making the point that those who don’t listen to God will remember all those things listed from v11-17, but those who are God’s people who listen to God, when the New Heavens and the new Earth and City come then these people will be part of that.
I see the problem in this interpretation she has come up with, lays in not recognising that the 1000yr Period is the time that the Earth is inhabited, and with those who survive after Christ’s initial return and clean up of the very wicked.
The teaching she has is that then all the Saints will inhabit the earth, and judge the people who are wicked, and then the devil is let loose among them again, and then God destroys them all
A FORMULA TO WORK WITH.
We have to be incorruptible and immortal to enter the kingdom of God, Eternity.
We have to die first and then risen in immortality (1 Cor 15:35-55.)
1Cor 15:44. “It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body”. We get a spiritual body given to each and everyone of us
Our flesh body dies, and our spirit is raised into a spirit body that God has for each and every individual. Therefore, to those ones, there is no more death.
The Saints are raised, already judged worthy 1Cor 15:51. And Rev 20:4. Where we have to understand to read “And I saw the Thrones, (And they say on them, and judgment was given to them).” This from the Greek MS. And column back up 1Cor 6:2-3. “Do you not know that the Saints will judge the world” --- etc.
“No more Death, Tears, Mourning, Crying, or Pain, because the former things have passed away”; Rev. 21: And this comes after v1. “And I saw a new Heaven and a new Earth for the former heaven and the former Earth were gone, and the Sea is no more.” The Prophets tell of the 1000yr period because they show that the times they talk of still have Death, while the New that God is to bring in has no more death, and scripture gives enough detail to know that these are two different times.
And then V2. The Holy City a New Jerusalem coming down out of Heaven from God prepared as a Bride adorned for her husband.
And those from CH20.15. “And if anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the Lake of Fire.”
And 21:8. Tells that those who are not worthy do not get to the New Jerusalem but instead the Lake of Fire which is the second death!
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Rev 21:22. There is no Temple in the New Jerusalem city. So Ezekiel’s Temple has been and gone, it is in the past with the Millennium period; and so this also points to the New City Jerusalem and the New Heavens and Earth being what comes after the Millennium, and when all have been judged, and therefore have to be immortal, as only after death comes the final judgment. And only the saved walk in all that is New; there are none other but the saved at that time. And look at Hebrews 12:22-23, this tells us the New City Jerusalem is spiritual.
It is clear that the earth is going to be totally destroyed at some time, then comes in the new, so at that new time all flesh will have died and what is left must be immortal/ spirit bodied, so anyone of the New Heavens and Earth will not be flesh.
Therefore all reference to Flesh must be before the destruction of the world, that is all that written about living, and the lamb and wolf co habiting, the building of ones own house and the growing of ones own garden, the Temple of Ezekiel and the sacrifices, all this would have to be during the Millennium time. Then the Devil is let out once more to flush out the evil ones and bring in the final war, but this is not until the ending of the 1000yrs, and is definitely not at the arrival of Jesus Christ. Rev 20:3.
Rev 19:11-21 tells a story of Christ’s arrival and the destruction of many evil ones, including the Beast and the false Prophet, and Jesus and the Saints ruled for the 1000yrs, but this is not the final war, this is to get rid of that element of the wicked to allow the winding down process of flesh existence; so there are two major happenings toward clean up of evil, the last being the finish of this world as it is now, or as it will be during the 1000yrs.
And remember that 2 Peter 3: says that the Heavens and the Earth will dissolve, to completely burn up, and all the elements, this must be from the war at the very end of Flesh times the Christ will hand back to God.
A New Heaven and Earth could be how the Millennium period could be termed with it’s account taken from Isaiah, as he mentions one, but also mentions death during that time, but there can be no death of the immortals which is the body state after the complete destruction of the earth and the incoming New one, so assume that it is not the one mentioned in Revelations.
Ezekiel doesn’t mention any New Heaven and Earth, and his temple is not fitting with the New City Jerusalem, where there is no Temple, God and Jesus are it.
In Ezekiel’s Temple account in the ordinances of the Priests, Ch 44:25 tells of cleansing after handling DEAD PERSONS, this must be during the 1000y. And according to Rev 21: The New City Jerusalem is not Ezekiel’s Temple as in Rev 21:4 it says there will be no more death, and v22 says there is no Temple in the city because God and Jesus are the Temple. V5 “I am making everything new”.
Ezekiel 38:1 tells of Gog, and v8 tells of it being during the latter years KJV, and v16 says it will be in the latter days. Seven years the people will burn the weapons, so this is a happening during
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And not at the total end of the flesh period, the 1000yrs.
Rev 20:7-10 is written as at or close to the end of the 1000yrs. And 11-15, puts the second death judgment as the next event, and then all will be immortal after judgment or no more flesh.
What then are the bodies of the immortals, 1 Cor 15: says they are spiritual bodies!
The fact that in Isa 61:7 says, the people Israel inherit the land a second time has to be done during the millennium period, as the people are flesh. And given that it is described as an everlasting thing and not forever and ever, tells me that it will last continuously for the period of time or era or that world time, but not eternally.
Isaiah 66:22. Here is a key. “For as the new heaven and the new earth which I make, remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name continue.” ---The New Heaven and Earth still remain before God, not yet given to the people, and while that is the case, the name and the seed of the people will go on in the flesh, not yet having become immortal, and given that the New Heavens and Earth are for the immortals backs this up, And this backed up by v23.
Is there any need to take these understandings any further? Have we sufficient understanding to call it a conviction? Are there any contradictions? ----- Or is this in Logical harmonic Balance with Scripture?
Kevin McQuoid.
God's word given.
